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Peace Team set for 2011 International Cup
Authored by: conyers on Saturday, March 19 2011 @ 09:11 am ACDT

Will be interesting to see if anyone from 2008 shows up and if so if they have actually been playing regular football in the 3 years between tournaments or if it is a brand new team.

If its a situation like last time where they just get people together a few months before the tournament then to be honest I think its pointless them showing up.

When they came in 2008 it was a feel good news story and the idea had merrit to it, but for it to truly be a success I belived they then had to go home and continue to play with and/ or against each other regulary in some form of competition and develop the game.

 

So if they are just going to turn up at ever International Cup from now on without actually developing the game in their homeland then they are really not achieving anything.

And given that we have not had any word of the game moving forward in that part of the world it would appear this is the case.

 

I know that probably sounds harsh to a lot of people but like everyone I want to see the game continue to grow in new countries so hoepfully they Peace team will make a return in 2011 with a stong squad who have been playing for the last couple of years.

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Peace Team set for 2011 International Cup
Authored by: Cam Homes on Monday, March 21 2011 @ 05:08 pm ACDT

Conyers.

I have to tend to agree with you a bit (you might be a little harsh tho') that  the Peace Team exercise has not acheived much if the only thing that happened was that 13 Palestinians realised that not all Israelis are two headed monsters and that 13 Israelis learned that not all Palestinians are bomb making devils and that some friendships have even endured.( Mind you that is something when you you hear  the extremists on either side shooting off their mouths.)

Maybe the "AFL" or the IC playing community could give these guys a gentle(or even not so gentle) nudge so that they do actually get a regular competition up and going and that next time(or even this time) they came as AFL "Israel/Palestine" instead of the Peace Team.

The Peace Team monicka as you said was the feel good story of IC08.

Palestine/Israel or V V does a lot more to show  what I believe this Peres Organisation is trying to do. And if AFL Israel/Palestine does get up and running and brings even more Israelis and Palestinians together to play  footy together other than the 26 from last time and the 26 from this time what an impact that would have. A bunch of 60 or even more guys(playing under the same rules eg. even numbers from each camp) every week or so would go a long way in shutting up some of the religious extremists.

So how about it AFL( tell them) NUDGE yes OK come and play but we want you to set up a footy league and you come and play as Israel/Palestine next time.

International footy community shoot me down If you disagree with this but I want  to see damned good back-up arguement.

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Peace Team set for 2011 International Cup
Authored by: Aaron Richard on Monday, March 21 2011 @ 07:18 pm ACDT

 Strongly disagree.  The work done by the Peres Centre for Peace, in a wide range of sports, goes a long way beyond just educating 13 Jews and 13 Palestinians.  The Peace Team also exposed the International Cup to a much larger audience than otherwise, particularly in attracting some documentary attention from the SBS demographic.

If they want to play, they can play.  The only issue I would have with it is if they were displacing another Israeli/Palestinian side who might be playing more regularly.

Also, how you could possibly expect the AFL to say you can't play unless you show receipts that you're conducting a local league?  Have a bit of a think about what the media would think about the AFL saying no to an international side who want to come to the cup, and can put a team on the park, regardless where from.  Maybe once there are enough countries playing that you realistically had to cap the number of teams, but that hasn't been reached yet.

And let's be honest - there were more than a few players in various sides at the last IC who were drafted in specifically to fill out the squad, given a crash course in how to play footy, and then probably haven't touched a ball since.

 

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Peace Team set for 2011 International Cup
Authored by: Brett Northey on Monday, March 21 2011 @ 08:50 pm ACDT

My opinion in brief:

  • Peace Team - excellent and does have wider benefits
     
  • The fact footy hasn't kicked on back home - disappointing but understandable
     
  • Should AFL etc push them to establish local leagues? - they should certainly encourage, as they should for every nation as part of their international development role.  Perhaps need a dedicated resource to explore it since it didn't happen post-IC08.
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Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN
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Peace Team set for 2011 International Cup
Authored by: Cam Homes on Monday, March 21 2011 @ 09:45 pm ACDT

Aaron.

You obviously missed the IF in my first paragraph.

Is there another set up playing footy in Israel/Palestine?

Not saying they can't play but don't you agree that AFLor the AFL international community should be giving them a nudge/ boost/ encourage them to get a league going so that they do end up with a AFL Palestine/Israel team playing instead of the "Peace Team" ("Peace Team" could really be open to a hell of a lot more players from parts of the world where conflict has and is occurring.)

Danny Brill said it all about what was being acheived by the exercise as far as understanding and reconciliation etc. But (and I understand barriers(physical and mental) erected by the conflict and the extremists in the area must make it bloody difficult) they spent months battling them before coming to Aussie and it seems little happened afterwards. Should not the AFL do a liitle more to ensure that that doesn't happen again. Maybe send Tony Woods or somebody like that to help em set it up( eg.the formalities side of things).

I can't imagine that an AFL Israel/Palestine team would not be even more effective than the "Peace Team". Surely not all of the 08 Peace Team willingly haven't touched a ball again since.

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Peace Team set for 2011 International Cup
Authored by: Aaron Richard on Tuesday, March 22 2011 @ 07:14 am ACDT

 To answer the question - there is another group playing footy socially in Israel, mainly composed of Australian Jews who've made aliyah.  They've talked about starting a formal local league on and off for about 10 years now, but it's never quite materialised.  I've spoken with a few of them over the years, you can find them on Facebook if you search for AFL in Israel.

This group also played at least one practice match against the Peace Team before the last IC.

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Peace Team set for 2011 International Cup
Authored by: Cam Homes on Tuesday, March 22 2011 @ 09:42 am ACDT

Thanks Aaron, it seems that the two groups have already got together so don't you think that the AFL should try to give a "little" push and shove(as they have applied in other parts of the world eg Fiji most recently, and PNG and Sth Africa) to help these guys get an Israel/Palestine league up and running and just as important have it be outside the confines of the religious extremes that seem to be destroying normal life in the area.

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