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European Championships - Round 3 Scores
Authored by: Kurt_D on Friday, August 06 2010 @ 11:22 am ACST

Only 1 player in the GB side that played in the win over Denmark last year. Probably a couple of reasons for this. The clash of the tournament with the AFL London finals is unfortunate. The main issue is the requirement for premiership teams to field 9 EU players and the conference to field 2. Clubs really can’t afford to lose their British players. That said, I don’t think the clubs would have put any pressure on the players to stay. Finance plays a big part as well. Blokes looking ahead to the IC will be saving really hard for that and the trip this year would be stretching them.

What this has done is opened up opportunities for new guys to impress, and given the big wins in the first 2 games, I’m sure many have. Also highlights the growth of British footy over the last couple of years, especially in the regional leagues. Not sure how many other EU nations would be able to draw on such depth.

European Championships - Round 3 Scores
Authored by: Aaron Richard on Friday, August 06 2010 @ 12:51 pm ACST

Not sure which was scheduled first, but I don't entirely understand why the AFL London didn't reschedule their finals, if it meant that the GB team at the Euro championships was going to be understrength.

It does reflect however that the British have the greatest depth of numbers, with the clubs spread across regional England, Wales and Scotland.

Regarding Croatia vs Germany, the Croats have been roughly level with or ahead of the Germans at previous EU Cups, plus they don't have a much bigger squad than Germany (if it's bigger at all), so they can probably lay claim to legitimately being ahead of them. They also have worked hard to get three 9-a-side teams up and running in their domestic competition, also in the Zagreb metro area, so they can play plenty of footy locally throughout the year.

Germany's problem is that the national league becomes expensive to play in - simply because the clubs are spread so far apart. People can't commit to the national team, because they've already spent a lot of money travelling in the domestic season. It also makes it hard to recruit for club footy.

A few people have said to me that for them to progress, initiatives like Munich's Bayern League are the way forward, to get people playing footy regularly on a local level.

European Championships - Round 3 Scores
Authored by: Aaron Richard on Friday, August 06 2010 @ 12:56 pm ACST

Also, don't underestimate Iceland, they're captained by a world team rep in Pall Finnsson and they performed well at the EU Cup last year without any Aussies :)

I reckon they were probably favourites going in against Finland.

My tips for the finals ranking after Saturday's games:

1. Ireland
2. Denmark
3. Great Britain
4. Sweden
5. Croatia
6. Iceland
7. Finland
8. Germany

European Championships - Round 3 Scores
Authored by: Cam Homes on Friday, August 06 2010 @ 02:41 pm ACST

G'Day Aaron and all.
Have to ditto the Congrats on Iceland and Croatia's first wins in 'Full Scale" Footy.
I also have to agree on the ranks after the final, but also agree, don't underestimate Iceland. They have appeared to have performed very well considering they have been going less than 2 years.

The results so far have reflected very well the ratings of the teams in the proposed ranking scheme, taking into account that there are 2 new comers entering the scheme.

After the 3 rounds so far the ranks look like:

IF a 2.00pts maximum Rating change is used
3. PNG 51.10
4. Ireland 45.50
5. USA 45.28
6. Nauru 44.20
7. Denmark 43.82
8. Great Britain 42.44
9. Samoa 41.77
10. South Africa 41.61
Prov. Peace Team 39.86
Prov. Croatia 38.83
Prov. Iceland 38.30
11. Canada 38.04
12. Sweden 37.74
Prov. China 35.43
13 Germany 35.18
14 Jaoan 33.93
15 Finland 32.30
Prov India 32.00
Dormant Prov. Spain 31.05
Spain's Rank could be said to be Dormant as it is Five (5) years sice they competed.

If a 3.00pts max rating change is used the ranks look like:
4. USA 46.97
5. Ireland 46.91
6. Nauru 46.53
7. Denmark 44.87
8. Samoa 42.98
9. GB 42.71
10. South Africa 42.49
Prov. Peace team 40.00
Prov. Croatia 38.40
11. Canada 37.82
Prov. Iceland 37.80
12. Sweden 36.84
Prov. China 34.00
13. Germany 32.60
14. Japan 31.08
15. Finland 28.10
Prov. India 28.00
Dormant Prov Spain 28.00

Note: I haven't shown the top few teams, not really relevant at this stage.

The final rounds to be played on the weekend should be even more illuminating in rating the teams relative strengths.

European Championships - Round 3 Scores
Authored by: Cam Homes on Friday, August 06 2010 @ 05:20 pm ACST

Aaron
If the rankings are to form then Germany should defeat Finland, Croatia over Iceland(but this can anyway really as both teams are provisional), Great Britain over Sweden and Ireland should reign supreme over Denmark. All 4 games will test the system I think.
Cam

European Championships - Round 3 Scores
Authored by: Niels Schønnemann on Friday, August 06 2010 @ 05:42 pm ACST

I know the EC2010 was first mentioned in Croatia last year and confirmed in Frankfurt earlier this year in January. I believe the AFL Londons fixtures are pretty much the same each year, but its seems strange they couldnt make a two weekend hiatus to make room for the EC2010. I guess all leagues at different levels struggle to organise a trip more than 4 hours drive away from home, for the British side, it seems their structure and history has led to club footy being their no 1.

European Championships - Round 3 Scores
Authored by: Brett Northey on Friday, August 06 2010 @ 05:40 pm ACST


I agree it shows GB's depth which is quite impressive, and it will give the coaches a good look at some of the new talent, and thanks Kurt your explanation shows why the clubs would be keen to hold onto their players.

But I'm also curious like Aaron as to why the AFL London finals weren't scheduled differently or re-scheduled - if all the nations of Europe are going to support the European Championships then such scheduling issues need to be avoided. I'm sure there are reasons like field availability etc, but certainly Denmark would have a good argument to be ranked above GB now - as the saying goes, you can only beat the opposition that you play on the day. Note that GB isn't making any excuses as far as I know, we're just discussing the reality of why their team is clearly not drawn from the same pool as in the past.

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Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN

European Championships - Round 3 Scores
Authored by: Brett Northey on Friday, August 06 2010 @ 05:43 pm ACST


And I note that it was a pretty comfortable win by the Danes as well. Sometimes the home team under-performs because so much effort goes into organising things. It looks like Denmark have managed to avoid that problem, perhaps another good sign that they have the critical mass to organise such a tournament (with Sweden) and still have the resources to focus on the footy.

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Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN

European Championships - Round 3 Scores
Authored by: Niels Schønnemann on Friday, August 06 2010 @ 10:17 pm ACST

Having both DK and Swe host the event meant a great deal for the organisation. The players have still helped out a lot on press releases, planning, sourcing and were important in the match day preparations and cleaning up. Only a good effort from both players and the local club personel has helped the teams succeed so far.