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Debate - World footy rankings 2008 - Where to place non-IC08 teams?
Authored by: duffman on Monday, January 26 2009 @ 07:00 am ACDT

If you are putting Oz at no. 1 then Ireland must be at no.2. Four or five in the AFL, more playing on rookie contracts plus you would only need a few county player from Ireland on top of these and Ireland would stuff everyone except Australia.

Debate - World footy rankings 2008 - Where to place non-IC08 teams?
Authored by: Niels Schønnemann on Monday, January 26 2009 @ 09:04 pm ACDT

I dont think so. This ranking is based on what national teams the countries have and realisticly would put on show. If Australia was to do this, they might only get 3rd or 4th-tier players playing (counting AFL as tier 1) for the green and gold, but they´d still be far better than anyone else.

The team that Irish coach would select, would not include the mentioned type players from other sporting codes and so they cannot be counted in.

Debate - World footy rankings 2008 - Where to place non-IC08 teams?
Authored by: 00Bock on Monday, January 26 2009 @ 09:16 pm ACDT

That is quite true! Imagine Kennelly, O'hAilpin and Clarke playing in the IC like Brian Stynes did in 2002 and 2005: no chance for PNG or NZ! But I guess regarding amateur level alone, the ranking is correct at the top.

Debate - World footy rankings 2008 - Where to place non-IC08 teams?
Authored by: Brett Northey on Tuesday, January 27 2009 @ 12:16 pm ACDT

duffman, you raise an interesting issue, but we've already discussed it. Correct that Ireland could easily be ranked second only to Australia, but we pretty much decided that it has to be based on realistic availability and at this stage AFL-listed players and players from other codes have not shown themselves to be available. If you consider other codes then the argument could extend forever - I'm sure the US could train up some NFL and NBA players to be pretty handy in a short space of time.

We can't say strictly amateur, as players below AFL level probably on various payments have already played. We'll try to stick to International Cup type criteria and with the caveat that there be a reasonable expectation that players would be available.

The bottom line is that we discussed it in reasonable depth in Debate - World footy rankings 2008 - the Irish question

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