IC11 Men\\\'s Div 1 Grand Final - Ireland\\\'s Double Glory

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IC11 Men\\\'s Div 1 Grand Final - Ireland\\\'s Double Glory

Authored by: Rod Shaw
on Monday, August 29 2011 @ 02:19 pm ACST

Hopefully the Oceania Cup can be set up as a half way point for the senior teams between each IC. Darwin was a great place for the Arafura Cup but reality says a Brisbane location would be a cheapish option or obviously one of the islands/NZ for promotion. You would hope that by say 2013 you could have PNG, NZ, Nauru, Tonga, Samoa and Fiji with perhaps Vanuatu and the Solomon Islands in attendance. A 9 day tournament 9 (a working week required for those needing to takke leave) would probably work o'k. Would be good preparation I would think for IC and for the stats monkeys would give more real data for world rankings.

Rod

IC11 Men\\\\\\\'s Div 1 Grand Final - Ireland\\\\\\\'s Double Glory

Authored by: Rod Shaw
on Monday, August 29 2011 @ 03:36 pm ACST

I forgot Timor Leste- so there is another country.

IC11 Men\\\\\\\'s Div 1 Grand Final - Ireland\\\\\\\'s Double Glory

Authored by: Aaron Richard
on Monday, August 29 2011 @ 03:40 pm ACST

Rod's right in that for the rankings to be meaningful, we need regional tournaments between the ICs.

The Oceania seniors could easily count 9 or 10 sides by 2013.

When the next (full-field) European Championships occur in 2013 in Dublin, they'll probably have more than a dozen nations that can bring a full side - Ireland, GB, Denmark, Sweden, France from this year's IC, plus hopefully Finland, Iceland, Spain, Italy, Germany, the Netherlands...

In Asia, maybe there's a chance that a few matches under IC-rules could be played in tandem to the current expat-focussed Asian Championships? I.e you could still field the majority Aussie China Reds vs Japan Goannas in the main draw of the Asian Champs, but also have a separate series for the China Red Demons vs Japan Samurai. Obviously financial constraints might make it hard to get the all-local iterations of East Timor, India, China and Japan together between ICs, but maybe it's a possibility.

IC11 Men\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s Div 1 Grand Final - Ireland\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s Double Glory

Authored by: Aaron Richard
on Monday, August 29 2011 @ 03:42 pm ACST

In the absence of an Asian comp under IC eligibility rules, would it be a possibility for East Timor, Japan etc to field a side in the Oceania Champs? I.e. it becomes an Asia-Pacific comp, coordinated by the AFL Oceania?

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Authored by: Rod Shaw
on Monday, August 29 2011 @ 04:16 pm ACST

I think stats geeks like myself might think that was pretty cool but the football development side of me would be saying how will this advance the footy in my country- what are the benefits against the costs in terms of money/time/key personnel burn out?????

I also know from experience that any AFL money/time has traditionally been heavily weighted to junior development/sourcing of elite juniors from other sports.

That said I think it should happen but I am no longer at the coalface and I would certainly not want to see anything drop off in terms of junior development, talented player pathways(those on scholarships in Aus, those involved at Aus Championships, those making their own way in Aussie) etc

I'm sure the WFN staff who have been working their butts off over the last two weeks will be thinking "Oh no....."

Rod ;-)

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