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Gideon Simon a first on AFL list

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Gideon Simon has become the first player who has learnt and played Australian rules football in another country to make it through the development pathway onto an AFL rookie list. Richmond yesterday announced that young PNG star who has been on an International Scholarship with the club will be officially listed with the Tigers in the Rookie draft this year as an International Rookie. The announcement came at the end of the AFL Draft combine in Melbourne where Simon tested well.

Others such as Mike Pyke, Shae McNamara and the now long list of Irish code crossers all came from other countries but did not play Aussie rules in their home country.

This is a huge vindication of the development pathway that has been developed in PNG, and hopefully will give hope to those elsewhere around the world to develop the game in their own corners of the globe. It is also a giant pat on the back to all that have been involved for many years in footy in PNG to bring the game there back from the brink.

Simon has been at the club for the latter part of this season, playing with Richmond's affilliate club Coburg (this affilliaton will not continue in 2012) in the Development League of the VFL.

On Richmondfc.com.au the club Richmond recruiting manager Matt Clarke said on Friday that the Tigers planned to turn Simon, who just turned 18, into a "tackling machine". He noted that Simon had rated highly in the sprinting and agility events at the NAB AFL Draft Combine, which finished at Etihad Stadium on Friday.

"Yes, he's little but he's powerful," Clarke said. "The thing that impressed us (during his stint at Punt Rd) was how well he fitted into the group. "Our players were disappointed when he had to go back home. "The coach (Damien Hardwick) said, 'he does everything right as a person, he does everything right on the ground. Let's give him a chance'."

Simon will be able to be upgraded to the senior list during the 2013 season and hopefully become the first internationally developed player in the AFL.

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Gideon Simon a first on AFL list
Authored by: Brett Northey on Saturday, October 06 2012 @ 01:03 am ACST

Congrats to Gideon on this break through and let's hope he takes the next step to be the first player who learnt the game overseas to play a senior AFL game.

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Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN
Gideon Simon a first on AFL list
Authored by: fumbaloney on Saturday, October 06 2012 @ 05:14 pm ACST

Great news that Gideon will be on Richmond's rookie list. Hopefully GWS will list Yoshi Harris (Nauru) & Brisbane will list Brendan Beno (also PNG) as well. However, I don't believe it is actually the case that Gideon is the first internationally developed player to make an AFL list. Winis Imbi (also from PNG) was rookie listed by Essendon in the late 90s/early 2000s.

Gideon Simon a first on AFL list
Authored by: Troy Thompson on Saturday, October 06 2012 @ 07:08 pm ACST

We are aware of Winis Imbi, but as far as we know he did not learn or play Aussie rules in PNG.  There is an old article on Winis here - http://www.worldfootynews.com/article.php/20090708203410311

Happy to hear any more you know on this Fumbaloney?

Gideon Simon a first on AFL list
Authored by: Harley Vague on Saturday, October 06 2012 @ 09:32 pm ACST

I'm not totally up to speed with drafting but I thought GWS took a South African player.?

Gideon Simon a first on AFL list
Authored by: Troy Thompson on Sunday, October 07 2012 @ 12:24 am ACST

Harley, Bayanda Sobetwa was signed to an international scholarship deal with GWS.  To review what the international scholarship is see - http://www.worldfootynews.com/article.php/20080317000031196

Some media has confused this with an International Rookie.  The main difference is the International Rookie is on the clubs active list and can be upgraded during the season to the senior list and can play in the AFL.  A scholarship listed player can be at the club learning and playing in their reserves team but cannot make the senior list.  The club do have the first option on the player to upgrade him to an International Rookie (or directly to the senior list) when he is finished his scholarship or they want him to play.  But he must be listed during the Rookie Draft before he can take his place on the rookie or senior list.  In Bayanda's case GWS did not see fit to continue his progress at the club and never drafted him as an international rookie.

Some media also reported Donald Barry as having been an international rookie, but to our knowledge he was only ever scholarship listed.

Gideon Simon a first on AFL list
Authored by: fumbaloney on Sunday, October 07 2012 @ 03:20 pm ACDT

Actually now that you mention it I hnk you are right. Winis Imbi grew up in Country Vic.

Gideon Simon a first on AFL list
Authored by: fumbaloney on Sunday, October 07 2012 @ 03:29 pm ACDT

Someone mentioned Bayanda Sobetwa. Reminded me of African players in general and made me wonder - how come this year nothing was mentioned on the WFN website about Thembinkosi Zwane from South Africa (who played senior football at South Launceston in 2012)? More significantly, no mention was made of Chamberlin Patrick Ndongo from Cameroon who played senior football with Frankston in the VFL. Patrick came over several years ago to play semi-professional soccer and decided to try his hand at Aussie Rules this year with Frankston in the VFL (with some degree of success; played about 3 senior games and was in the best players in the reserves a few times). I thought it was an amazing story.

Gideon Simon a first on AFL list
Authored by: Tobietta Rhyman on Monday, October 08 2012 @ 02:28 pm ACDT

We can only cover the areas our writers do but you're right it sounds like a great story. Do you have any more info? And anyone can submit a story btw, the link is under "contribute" at the top :D

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AFL England Women's Football Co-ordinator; WFN Female Football Writer
Gideon Simon a first on AFL list
Authored by: Troy Thompson on Tuesday, October 09 2012 @ 06:59 am ACDT

Michael will be covering off how the year went for some of these guys and others of interest shortly.  There are always a number of others that keep a fairly low profile that we may not find out about until later on (if ever at all).

Of course Gideon may not technically be the first if another club drafts or rookie drafts ahead of the selection that Richmond use for Gideon.

 

Gideon Simon a first on AFL list
Authored by: Michael Christiansen on Tuesday, October 09 2012 @ 08:11 pm ACDT

Patty Ndongo story is up.

Thanks for the heads on Patty - it's hard to track stories that appear very 'locally', such as a local Leader paper or even a soccer forum ahead of any mainstream footy 'channels'. 

Gideon Simon a first on AFL list
Authored by: Troy Thompson on Wednesday, October 10 2012 @ 05:17 am ACDT
Gideon Simon a first on AFL list
Authored by: fumbaloney on Tuesday, December 11 2012 @ 07:11 pm ACDT

Has Gideon Simon actually been rookie listed. He didn't come through today's rookie draft so this leads me to think that he is still a scholarship holder and not actuallyt on the Richmond rookie list. Can anyone confirm this?

What about Alex Starling (US basketballer)? Has he been rookie listed by Sydney as was suggested in the media and by the club earlier this year? He too did not come through today's rookie draft. Does anyone know?

Gideon Simon a first on AFL list
Authored by: Brett Northey on Tuesday, December 11 2012 @ 11:09 pm ACDT

The rules are always changing so it's difficult to keep up to date, but I believe "international rookies" are still somewhat separate to "rookies", and clubs can sign them on whenever they want.  So really Simon would've been signed on when the announcement was made, rather than during today's rookie draft, despite what the first paragraph of the article says.

Starling was signed under the International Scholarship Scheme.  This ties him to the club and I believe he can train etc, but Sydney would have to move him up to an International Rookie to be eligible to play in a given year.  So scholarship is a step behind International Rookie.

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Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN
Gideon Simon a first on AFL list
Authored by: fumbaloney on Tuesday, December 11 2012 @ 11:47 pm ACDT

I know that Starling was signed under the International Scholarship Scheme (I know the difference between an International Scholarship holder and an International Rookie). That was this year - 2012. However, Sydney made it clear when he was signed onto the scholarship that he would be upgraded to the rookie list in 2013 (the same as Gideon Simon). I don't thik this has happened. Does anybody know?

Gideon Simon a first on AFL list
Authored by: Brett Northey on Wednesday, December 12 2012 @ 12:48 pm ACDT

I wasn't aware of they'd made that commitment.  We can try to find out.

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Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN
Gideon Simon a first on AFL list
Authored by: Michael Christiansen on Thursday, December 13 2012 @ 02:31 pm ACDT

The Starling story I think first broke back in Jan, and by August there were media reports indicating that if all things went well then he'd be rookie listed in 2013.

On Redandwhiteonline the sentiment is that the Swans have 3 Cat A rookies and 4 Cat B with no room for Starling.  Who knows.  They have an Alex Starling thread with nothing consequential at present.

Gideon Simon a first on AFL list
Authored by: fumbaloney on Wednesday, December 19 2012 @ 07:22 pm ACDT

ActuallyI  just found out two days ago that Sydney have let Starling go and are not signing him as an International Rookie due to injury and fitness concerns - suppose he just hasn't come on as they would have expected. A shame. With expansion I was certain that more Internationals and Northern Territorians would be drafted/rookie listed. This is not the case. Despite the success of players like Mike Pyke, Pearce Hanley & Cyril Rioli, there are less Internationals and Territorians on AFL lists than 3 years ago. Hopefully North Melbourne sign Eric Wallace - International Rookie list cut off is this Friday.

Gideon Simon a first on AFL list
Authored by: Brett Northey on Wednesday, December 19 2012 @ 09:29 pm ACDT

Probably not surprising re Starling unless he showed something special.  With the established Mumford then Pyke doing well and Sam Reid already a very good tall forward at 20 years old and Sydney picking up Irishman Tommy Walsh last year they were already looking good in the big man department.  Now securing Kurt Tippett who plays forward and ruck it's hard to see Pyke getting a game (unless Mumford gets injured) let alone Walsh.  So speculating on tall internationals probably isn't worth their effort for the next few years.

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Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN