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Nations to compete for Cup and cash

International Cup 2011

For the first time the nations competing at the 2011 AFL International Cup will have not just the Cup to win but also prize money.

Nominal Prize money has been introduced for the first time.  The AFL's Tony Woods explained, "While we recognise the amateur status of the tournament, the spirit of the International Cup and the motivation behind participants we are keen to provide a small token reward that can be used to assist in the development of the game on the team’s return to their country. Prize money will be awarded by way of a grant to the recipient countries for the 2012 season."

The breakdown is as follows: 

Men’s Division 1

  • First Place           $6,000
  • Second Place      $3,000
  • Third Place          $1,750

Men’s Division 2

  • First Place           $1,000

Women’s Division 1

  • First Place           $2,000
  • Second Place      $1,000
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Nations to compete for Cup and cash
Authored by: sverik25 on Saturday, July 02 2011 @ 01:14 pm ACST

Overall, I think providing a small amount of prize money is a good idea. The only problem I have is, with the money going to higher achieving teams, will this widen the gap between the top teams and teams somewhere in the middle?

What does everyone think about this?

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Nations to compete for Cup and cash
Authored by: Joel Adin Porretta on Saturday, July 02 2011 @ 01:23 pm ACST

True, but it also may slightly decrease the gap between those countries and Australia.

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Nations to compete for Cup and cash
Authored by: Aaron Richard on Saturday, July 02 2011 @ 01:28 pm ACST

 Is it maybe more the issue of the winner of Div 2 (ie 13th overall) getting some cash, but not the teams finishing 4th-12th?

Also, I guess theoretically, a team might tank in the lightning round to get into Div 2, then smash the other 5 for the cash (note, I don't actually think that will happen).

Let's see how it turns out.  An extra incentive for teams to pull out all the stops and put the best possible team on the park shouldn't be a bad thing.  One thing it may do is mean the AFL have to be extremely strict on player eligibility.

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Nations to compete for Cup and cash
Authored by: Brett Northey on Saturday, July 02 2011 @ 01:48 pm ACST

I like the idea.  There are some obvious issues but the amounts are not going to make or break programs so I don't think it will widen gaps between nations.  I see it as a nice first step introducing some added rewards.

As for top of Div 2 getting rewarded and not the lower Div 1 sides, yeah it is a bit anomalous but I'm glad they did it.  Again, it won't make a big long term difference but is a nice little reward to take away.  If a team thinks that small amount is worth more than Div 1 status then so be it.

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Nations to compete for Cup and cash
Authored by: smusic on Saturday, July 02 2011 @ 04:34 pm ACST

sorry for my cynicism - you know i love the overseas development - but it is nice isn't it for Andrew to give away a miserable $14,750 to help the teams get here!!! well those that win anyway. more should be done. every country who comes should get something. the afl are tending to let the overseas people find us with the help of a few aussies who are keen - it appears those at the top are not as keen as worldfootynews, sheeds, mccartney and matthews and a few others. they should be throwing our game at the world, cos they obviously luv it who find it, but still - it is a step in the right direction for sure.

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Nations to compete for Cup and cash
Authored by: Cam Homes on Saturday, July 02 2011 @ 06:04 pm ACST

Smusic.

 Have to agree a bit, Demetriou could give each of the 18 teams a thou out of his own salary and he wouldn't even notice it gone.

A bit like you and me giving them a dollar each I reckon!

Cam

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Nations to compete for Cup and cash
Authored by: Brett Northey on Saturday, July 02 2011 @ 09:04 pm ACST

As I've been saying for a while now, I think the commitment is clearly steadily improving, but the AFL can't just act independently of what the clubs and players and fans want, as we're seeing with the great player salary debate.  The players want a whole lot more, the AFL says that will come from clubs, the players say no, take it from other areas, which to me is code for game development, which is what has made the sport so strong in recent years.  So for me, I think the AFL is on the right track hence we're not particularly critical.  But happy to hear fans saying they want to see more.

As for AD's pay packet, I'm philosophically opposed to any CEO getting big bonuses.  Forgive my diversion here...

My idea of a good bonus for outstanding work would be 5% - I'd certainly appreciate that at the end of a year.  But we seem to see across business bonuses of 100% or 200%.  In fact I'm philosophically opposed to percentages in general.  The cleaner does a vital job that no one else wants to do and gets paid $30k and gets a pay rise of 3% which is a measly $900 but the big exec gets say 20% of $400k which is $80k, more than the cleaner gets paid in total!  Even if the exec only got 3% it's still $12k, which is over a third of the cleaner's pay.  Ah well it will all come crashing down one day.  End of diversion!

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Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN
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Nations to compete for Cup and cash
Authored by: Charlie Slim on Monday, July 04 2011 @ 05:44 am ACST

Im quite upset and surprised about prize money being offered to the winning teams of the tournament... I believe it sends the wrong message out to developing countries who are trying to promote the game.. With so many countries pulling out shouldnt the money be better spent by getting these countries to event and offering financial assistance... the strength of the Aussie $ is killing everyone in Europe... The game overseas is a truely amateur sport played by people who the love of the game!!! Just my thoughts Cheers Mark Pitura GB Coach

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Nations to compete for Cup and cash
Authored by: Brett Northey on Monday, July 04 2011 @ 03:03 pm ACST

Hi Mark.  Good to hear from one of the countries involved.  Would love to see more of your guys getting on here leading up to the Cup.

I guess my take on this is that a few thousand extra in development grants probably wouldn't make much difference to any one country in terms of whether they could or could not make it to Australia for IC11.  The total is $14750.  I suppose if that was all given to one nation then it might make the difference.  But then who to give it to?

It's certainly complicated because obviously some nations already get more support than others.  I kind of feel like it's wrong to have these prizes in some ways, but overall my gut feel is that it adds some polish or gloss to the event which I like in terms of making it steadily bigger and better.

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