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IC2011 set for divisions and Women's comp

International Cup 2011

The AFL is planning to host the next International Cup in August 2011 in Melbourne, Sydney and probably the Gold Coast or Brisbane. For the first time in Cup history the competing nations will be split into divisions. The AFL has told potential competitors that "IC11 will be run across multiple divisions - to be determined by the final number of entrants". That suggests that if there are enough teams there could even be three separate divisions.

The 2008 tournament was originally going to have a primary group and a developing nations group, but the final numbers saw the teams merged into one competition, with some demoralising losses. With some new footy nations expected to attend in 2011 and the top squads now very accomplished, a separation is clearly needed if 150+ point blow outs (even allowing for shortened games) are to be avoided.

And in another exciting development the world's national women's sides will be welcomed with their own division. Possibilities at this early stage may include Canada's Northern Lights, the USA Freedom, Papua New Guinea (who have been successful with girls competing in Queensland), South Africa (which has had girls playing as part of FootyWILD) and Ireland, which has recently been trying to begin a women's league. No word yet as to whether Australia would field a side, although that seems unlikely at this stage.

It seems highly likely that 2011 will see a record number of teams competing across men's, women's and in three different cities across Australia's east coast.

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IC2011 set for divisions and Women's comp
Authored by: Mister Football on Sunday, August 08 2010 @ 08:37 am ACST

Terrific news.
Thanks to WFN for providing such good coverage of the European Championships.

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Mister Football

IC2011 set for divisions and Women's comp
Authored by: Aaron Richard on Sunday, August 08 2010 @ 10:20 am ACST

Thanks, but the real credit goes to the guys on the ground in Europe who kept sending me the reports and entering the scores on The Footy Record - at the IC we can walk around and do that kind of stuff ourselves, but for the Euro Champs we were relying on them.

Sounds like the whole tournament went off really well!! Congrats to Ireland, but equally congrats to the other 7 teams that showed they can mix it with the best of them.

IC2011 set for divisions and Women's comp
Authored by: Wayne Kraska on Sunday, August 08 2010 @ 11:53 am ACST

Brett whats your source for the womens division being part of the cup??. I must admit I have eluded to it a few times in chatting to 'people" about coming back down there again but not sure the teams have heard anything at all. Its still not sure where the event is to be held correct.?

IC2011 set for divisions and Women's comp
Authored by: Aaron Richard on Sunday, August 08 2010 @ 03:15 pm ACST

The women's division was mentioned in the memo that was sent out from the AFL to all international affiliates on Thursday.

IC2011 set for divisions and Women's comp
Authored by: Ian Hill on Sunday, August 08 2010 @ 04:22 pm ACST

Still think it is a massive mistake to hold the next IC so early. Should be at least a four year break and therefore held in 2012. I hear the main reason for 2011 is that the nations closer to Australia wanted it then and they got their wish. Easy enough for them isn't it?
It is still early days for Aussie Rules internationally and all very amateur. The cost for the teams further away is enormous. Money could be better spent elsewhere, and even if the folks on the ground feel they shouldn't go, they also feel they have to for fear of being perceived as failing if they don't. Hats off to Germany for defying this trend thus far.
European nations got together and held a fantastic local championships. If the Asia/Pacific nations wanted another tournament, they should have been doing the same thing this year. We should be working towards the soccer model.

IC2011 set for divisions and Women's comp
Authored by: Christopher P. Adams, Ph.D. on Sunday, August 08 2010 @ 09:37 pm ACST

I think in North America, we are generally supportive on of the 3 year model. We don't have the alternatives to international football that other countries have. I would think that both Canada and the US would be interested in a Women's tourney, and even in the possibility of participation from state level development teams.

I would also be interested in a junior international competition for 2014. I think Canada, US, UK and Denmark, NZ, PNG, SA would be able to bring competitive U16 sides.

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IC2011 set for divisions and Women's comp
Authored by: Brett Northey on Monday, August 09 2010 @ 01:01 am ACST


Hi Wayne, my understanding is that the AFL has committed the location to Melbourne for part 1 then Sydney for part 2, after that it may be Brisbane or Gold Coast or neither, depending on what they can secure in terms of sponsorship etc.

Ian, in terms of 3 yearly ICs, I've always favoured a 4 year cycle, like you. Although Germany is often held up as an example of a nation that has resisted attending ICs at all, with the suggestion that they would rather concentrate on investing locally. That argument would be far stronger if the Eagles had risen to be a top footy nation in Europe, but 7th at EC2010 suggests other countries have actually started up more recently and gone past them in some ways.

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Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN

IC2011 set for divisions and Women's comp
Authored by: 00Bock on Monday, August 09 2010 @ 07:57 pm ACST

7th place suggests that others have coutries have gone past Germany. That is true. Therefore we are very unhappy with that postition. We have a league of 6 teams and 120 active german players. Numbers wich rather compare to some of the stronger footy nations in Europe. If we want to get our best 25 to travel to tournaments we will have to do other things first that to travel to Australia in 2011 - UNFORTUNATELY.

IC2011 set for divisions and Women's comp
Authored by: Brett Northey on Monday, August 09 2010 @ 09:39 pm ACST


120 active German players would definitely compare favourably with most other European nations. Hopefully that will be reflected in the national side in future.

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Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN

IC2011 set for divisions and Women's comp
Authored by: footyjules on Friday, August 13 2010 @ 03:35 pm ACST

Hi all,

I think the three year model is good. It keeps the spirit up and something to work towards. In the case of Germany not competing in the cups, look at South Africa who started at the 2002 International cup with guys who could not even mark a footy nor kick the thing straight. And look at them now.

I think Germany should join. It is a great opportunity and who knows maybe they have some hidden talent and the AFL decides to invest in them. Why would you play footy if you are going to play in your own country and you cant compare yourself with other international players? I will definitely not play if there is nothing to play for! So I don't think the game will take off there....

Regards,

Julian

IC2011 set for divisions and Women's comp
Authored by: David Verngren on Tuesday, August 17 2010 @ 04:40 am ACST

Hey guys!

Will there soon enough be an updated "unofficial" ranking including the games from EC 10?

IC2011 set for divisions and Women's comp
Authored by: Aaron Richard on Tuesday, August 17 2010 @ 06:50 am ACST

Hopefully yes, very soon.

IC2011 set for divisions and Women's comp
Authored by: Brett Northey on Tuesday, August 17 2010 @ 10:56 am ACST

Hi David,

There's a bit of a delay on the rankings as we've been internally testing several models and would prefer to settle on one before releasing it, otherwise we'd have different people quoting different versions and probably no way to pick one. Every model will have weaknesses, but better that we do our due diligence before posting it up.

Cheers,
Brett

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Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN

IC2011 set for divisions and Women's comp
Authored by: Michael Christiansen on Tuesday, November 30 2010 @ 05:54 pm ACDT


Dated 5.38pm Nov 29,

AFL Fiji officially announces the development of AFL Fiji Women's Team to compete in the AFL International Cup, August 2011.

and off the AFL website,

The AFL is pleased to confirm the
  • International Cup 2011 (IC11)
  • will be played in both Sydney and Melbourne from
      Friday August 12 to Saturday August 27, 2011
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    IC2011 set for divisions and Women's comp
    Authored by: Brett Northey on Tuesday, November 30 2010 @ 08:32 pm ACDT


    Formal report / details pending.

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    Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN