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IC08 draw - 16 teams, 1 division, 4 pools

International Cup 2008

The Australian Football League has released the much anticipated draw for the 2008 Australian Football International Cup. The AFL had felt a two division format was most likely (effectively separated between elite and developing nations), with anywhere between 12 and 18 teams on the cards. But with the final number of teams coming in at 16, and most of them wishing to play in the main draw, a late decision was made to merge them into one division. This gives the tournament a very fair structure, with 4 pools of 4 teams, each side playing the others within their pool once, with the top team in each going through to the main semi-finals (and similarly lower finishing teams playing off against each other).

The previously alluded to Multicultural section outside the main draw has also been released, with "Team Africa" representing Melbourne's recent African immigrants and playing three matches, against each of South Africa (as a practice game for them), Tonga (unable to commit to the full draw) and "Team Asia".

The pools:

RankPool APool BPool CPool D
1New ZealandPNGUSAIreland
2SamoaGreat BritainSouth AfricaCanada
3JapanNauruDenmarkSweden
4IndiaPeace TeamChinaFinland

All the rounds, times and venues are listed below.

The pool rounds:

Round 1 - Wednesday, 27 AugustMelbourne
Match-upPoolVenueTime
Ireland vs SwedenDRoyal Park - McAlister Oval11:00am
New Zealand vs JapanARoyal Park - Ransford Oval11:00am
Canada vs FinlandDRoyal Park - Western Oval11:00am
Samoa vs IndiaARoyal Park - McAlister Oval1:00pm
Great Britain vs Peace TeamBRoyal Park - Ransford Oval1:00pm
USA vs DenmarkCRoyal Park - Western Oval1:00pm
South Africa vs ChinaCRoyal Park - McAlister Oval3:00pm
PNG vs NauruBRoyal Park - Ransford Oval3:00pm


Round 2 - Fri 29 / Sat 30 AugustMelbourne
Match-upPoolVenueTime
Ireland vs FinlandDRoyal Park - Western Oval11:00am Fri 29th Aug
USA vs ChinaCRoyal Park - McAlister Oval11:00am Fri 29th Aug
Great Britain vs NauruBRoyal Park - Ransford Oval11:00am Fri 29th Aug
PNG vs Peace TeamBRoyal Park - McAlister Oval1:00pm Fri 29th Aug
Samoa vs JapanARoyal Park - Ransford Oval1:00pm Fri 29th Aug
New Zealand vs IndiaARoyal Park - Western Oval1:00pm Fri 29th Aug
Canada vs SwedenDRoyal Park - Ransford Oval3:00pm Fri 29th Aug
South Africa vs DenmarkCSt Mary's, Geelong12:00pm Sat 30th Aug


Round 3 - Monday 1 SeptemberWarrnambool
Match-upPoolVenueTime
Ireland vs CanadaDReid Oval11:00am
New Zealand vs SamoaAWalter Oval11:00am
Sweden vs FinlandDMack Oval11:00am
USA vs South AfricaCReid Oval1:00pm
PNG vs Great BritainBWalter Oval1:00pm
Japan vs IndiaAMack Oval1:00pm
Denmark vs ChinaCReid Oval3:00pm
Nauru vs Peace TeamBWalter Oval3:00pm

The finals:

Top 45th - 8th9th - 12th13th - 16th
1st Pool A2nd Pool A3rd Pool A4th Pool A
1st Pool B2nd Pool B3rd Pool B4th Pool B
1st Pool C2nd Pool C3rd Pool C4th Pool C
1st Pool D2nd Pool D3rd Pool D4th Pool D


Round 4 - Wednesday, 3 SeptemberWarrnambool
Match-upFinalVenueTime
3rd Pool A vs 3rd Pool D3Mack Oval1:00pm
4th Pool A vs 4th Pool D1Reid Oval1:00pm
2nd Pool B vs 2nd Pool C6Walter Oval1:00pm
4th Pool B vs 4th Pool C2Mack Oval3:00pm
3rd Pool B vs 3rd Pool C4Reid Oval3:00pm
2nd Pool A vs 2nd Pool D5Walter Oval3:00pm
1st Pool A vs 1st Pool D7Reid Oval5:30pm
1st Pool B vs 1st Pool C8Reid Oval7:30pm


This now means:

Round 4 - Wednesday, 3 SeptemberWarrnambool
Match-upFinalVenueTime
Samoa vs Sweden3Mack Oval1:00pm
India vs Finland1Reid Oval1:00pm
Nauru vs USA6Walter Oval1:00pm
Peace Team vs China2Mack Oval3:00pm
Great Britain vs Denmark4Reid Oval3:00pm
Japan vs Canada5Walter Oval3:00pm
New Zealand vs Ireland7Reid Oval5:30pm
PNG vs South Africa8Reid Oval7:30pm


Round 5 - Friday 5 SeptemberMelbourne
Match-upRankVenueTime
Winner Final 1 vs Winner Final 213th/14thRoyal Park - Western Oval10:00am
Winner Final 3 vs Winner Final 49th/10thRoyal Park - McAlister Oval10:00am
Winner Final 5 vs Winner Final 65th/6thRoyal Park - Ransford Oval10:15am
Loser Final 3 vs Loser Final 411th/12thRoyal Park - Western Oval11:45am
Loser Final 5 vs Loser Final 67th/8thRoyal Park - McAlister Oval11:45am
Loser Final 7 vs Loser Final 83rd/4thRoyal Park - Ransford Oval12:00pm
Loser Final 1 vs Loser Final 215th/16thRoyal Park - Ransford Oval1:45pm


This now means:

Round 5 - Friday 5 SeptemberMelbourne
Match-upRankVenueTime
Finland vs Peace Team13th/14thRoyal Park - Western Oval10:00am
Great Britain vs Samoa9th/10thRoyal Park - McAlister Oval10:00am
Nauru vs Canada5th/6thRoyal Park - Ransford Oval10:15am
Sweden vs Denmark11th/12thRoyal Park - Western Oval11:45am
USA vs Japan7th/8thRoyal Park - McAlister Oval11:45am
Ireland vs South Africa3rd/4thRoyal Park - Ransford Oval12:00pm
India vs China15th/16thRoyal Park - Ransford Oval1:45pm


Grand Final - Friday 5 SeptemberMelbourne
Match-upRankVenueTime
Winner Final 7 vs Winner Final 81st/2ndMCG5:10pm


This now means:

Grand Final - Friday 5 SeptemberMelbourne
Match-upRankVenueTime
New Zealand vs Papua New Guinea1st/2ndMCG5:10pm


MULTICULTURAL CHALLENGE MATCHES
Match-upDateVenueTime
Team Africa vs South Africa23rd AugustGosch's Paddock10:30am
Team Africa vs Team Asia29th AugustRoyal Park - McAlister3:00pm
Team Africa vs Team Asia1st SeptemberWarrnambool - Mack3:00pm
Team Africa vs Tonga5th SeptemberRoyal Park - McAlister1:30pm

* Fixture subject to change.
** Some matches were moved ovals to present the anticipated best match/closest match on the best oval for spectator viewing (these changes will be reflected in this timetable once determined).
*** Grand Final was originally scheduled for Saturday 6th Sep but moved to Friday 5th when there was no AFL final scheduled for the MCG.

What do you think of the draw?

Later today we'll present an analysis of the draw and invite reader feedback.

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IC08 draw - 16 teams, 1 division, 4 pools
Authored by: Sean Finlayson on Wednesday, July 16 2008 @ 02:39 PM ACST
What happened to the USA's jumper ? New design looks crap. Their old one looked so good, so why change it ?

Not a great way to start the tournament ... Expect to see some whallopings in round one. Ireland will embarass Sweden, ditto NZ over Japan, Canda over Finland, Samoa over India, Britain over Peace Team and South Africa over China.

Some terribly inaccessible times for spectators also. Good to see at least one night match scheduled. You'd think if they had the lights, they'd consider using them for more matches.

IC08 draw - 16 teams, 1 division, 4 pools
Authored by: Ian Hill on Wednesday, July 16 2008 @ 03:11 PM ACST

Ireland v Sweden won't be so bad. Recently Denmark went down to Ireland by 20 points and only "comfortably defeated" Sweden. The real worries will be New Zealand v India (a good cricket match up, but hey, this is Australian Football), PNG v Peace Team (so much for the peace), USA v China (an interesting match-up politically, but OUCH!), and Ireland v Finland (omigod).
They're going to need a mercy rule.

Also I think teams should be pooled with neighbouring teams as little as possible. There are five European teams so surely only two of them should have been in one pool with the other three spread out. They have Ireland, Sweden and Finland in one pool - particularly disappointing those two neighbours who already meet regularly. What's the point? Should have swapped Sweden and Japan.

IC08 draw - 16 teams, 1 division, 4 pools
Authored by: conyers on Wednesday, July 16 2008 @ 03:39 PM ACST

I agree with Ian, you should definetly seperate the regions similar to the FIFA world cup. You can still have seedings so this should not have happened.
I am happy that they went with 1 division even though i think the bottow teams in each group will be taught a lesson.
Pool C will be interesting, obviously China will be out classed but the other 3 games could go either way depending on how much South Africa has improved.

IC08 draw - 16 teams, 1 division, 4 pools
Authored by: Michael Christiansen on Wednesday, July 16 2008 @ 03:49 PM ACST

agreed US jumper looks like a training top - the old one was impressive, almost awe inspiring.

I like the Denmark Rnd 2 match down in Geelong - further cementing that relationship.

The 1 division, well - - if that's what was requested, then, that's what they get. I hope the Chinese and Indian teams have had a crash course in (surviving) getting tackled, bumped, etc.

Agreed Pool C looks for 3 out of 4 to be a ripper pool, NZ look clearly ahead in Pool A (unless it rains, heavily, which might suit the lower to the ground Japanese unit!!). Ireland, one would assume would still be well ahead of Canada (the N-W delta juniors aren't old enough yet), and PNG, gotta be clear favourites, although one would hope the Brits are developing better 'home grown' talent.

IC08 draw - 16 teams, 1 division, 4 pools
Authored by: Erik on Wednesday, July 16 2008 @ 05:01 PM ACST

Must admit that I don't think the setup is ideal. I mean if you lose one game you are more or less certain "only" to play for 5th. to 8th. spot. In 2002 and 2005 you could still make 3rd spot.
And I agree with Ian and the lot. Why travel 16.000 K (in Swedens case) only to play your next door neigbour Finland who they have played within the last month?
Surely it would be more interesting to messure your progress against other teams from around the world.

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Honey?? Pass me that muffin will you?

IC08 draw - 16 teams, 1 division, 4 pools
Authored by: John Enright on Wednesday, July 16 2008 @ 07:33 PM ACST

No offense to the Americans but the new jersey is horrible... They should have stuck to the original design - it was a lot nicer!! I think the Canadian and Finnish jerseys are far and away the nicest!!

Have teams got clash strips? I think our clash strip is is a white on black with the same graphics!

John

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John Enright
http://www.arfli.com

IC08 draw - 16 teams, 1 division, 4 pools
Authored by: Julian Clark on Wednesday, July 16 2008 @ 08:10 PM ACST

You are right - particularly the Finland jumpers !!!

Apparently the creator of the Finland jumper also had Miss Australia wearing one of his creations in the "traditional national costume" section of the recent Miss Universe competition.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hanoiswans/2645590778/sizes/o/

Now that's publicity !!!
IC08 draw - 16 teams, 1 division, 4 pools
Authored by: Troy Thompson on Friday, July 18 2008 @ 09:11 AM ACST
Geelong Addy story today on the game at St Marys.
IC08 draw - 16 teams, 1 division, 4 pools
Authored by: Michael Robinson on Tuesday, August 19 2008 @ 10:52 AM ACST

The game this Saturday between Team Africa and South Africa will be played at Gosch's Paddock (Collingwood's training ground) Cnr Punt Road and Swan St Richmond from 10:30am

IC08 draw - 16 teams, 1 division, 4 pools
Authored by: Brett Northey on Wednesday, August 20 2008 @ 11:22 PM ACST

Thanks, your info is correct. There's now 4 such matches scheduled:

MULTICULTURAL CHALLENGE MATCHES
Match-upDateVenueTime
Team Africa vs South Africa23rd AugustGosch's Paddock10:30am
Team Africa vs Team Asia29th AugustRoyal Park - McAlister3:00pm
Team Africa vs Team Asia1st SeptemberWarrnambool - Mack3:00pm
Team Africa vs Tonga5th SeptemberRoyal Park - McAlister3:30pm

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Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN