Dream becomes nightmare for some as Big V pull clear
Sunday, May 11 2008 @ 12:37 AM EST
Contributed by: Brett
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The much anticipated Tribute Game has been won by Victoria by 17 points before nearly 70,000 fans at the MCG. The one-off match was close all night but never really rose to great heights, with the Big V pulling away in the last quarter.
The Dream Team burst out of the blocks and their potent forward line looked like it would be too classy to control. But just as the Dreamers had awesome forwards, Victoria always looked to have an advantage in the midfield, and when the away side lost Daniel Kerr for the match with a lower leg injury, the balance swung even further. Slowly but surely the home team exerted their dominance around the packs. Josh Fraser and Troy Simmons performed better than expected against Dean Cox and Jamie Charman in ruck (why didn't coach Mark Williams select either of his acclaimed ruckmen?). Ironically it was South Australian Adam Goodes (controversially deemed a Victorian despite stating otherwise) who took control of the second quarter, winning a lot of the ball and nullifying the Dream Team's ruck dominance by being third man up at the ruck contests around the ground.
From that point on Victoria looked the better team, pushing out to a comfortable lead. Matthew Scarlett outclassed Geelong team-mate Cam Mooney (while at times other star forwards like Matthew Pavlich sat on the bench or were used elsewhere). Scarlett's run and other quick Vic clearances unsettled their opponent's defence. Brendan Fevola was proving more than a handful, ultimately kicking 5.2 and being awarded the Aylett medal as best on ground, while down the other end Lance Franklin was dangerous but somewhat wasteful with 4.5. Jonathan Brown was a steady contributor all game, but fellow Victorian superstar Chris Judd was quiet. Just as it looked like a match winning margin would be gained, the Victorians seemed to ease off, letting the Dreamers back in, with Andrew McLeod adding his rebound to the silky display already put on by Peter Burgoyne.
Early in the last the Dream Team themselves were on the verge of putting the game away, leading by 2 goals and on top, before the Vics rallied again. A dodgy free kick to captain Jonathan Brown on the goal line, a goal paid which appeared touched by the Dream Team, an arm chopping free when the umpires had disregarded that rule all night, and a mark to Brown that initially came off defender Ben Rutten's hand, and suddenly Victoria had banged on four goals, and finally 7 for the quarter. That's not to suggest a bias by the umpires, although the selection of an all-Victorian set of field umpires had been publicly questioned outside of Victoria and so expect it will be again on talkback radio during the coming week. A couple of poor shots on goal by the Dream Team then blew any chance they had of clawing back the lead, and a class goal to Steve Johnson from the boundary left the final gap at 17 points.
So what does it all mean? The players seemed keen for the match to be played, and a solid crowd of 70,000 turned up. Perhaps only in Aussie Rules can we be slightly disappointed by those sort of numbers, but bear in mind that size patronage will happen quite a few times this year in Melbourne, so for such a special match, a lot of fans stayed away.
The match also demonstrated that a stacked forward line is not much use if the midfield is getting beaten - perhaps validating the umpire's preference for on-ballers when handing out Brownlow Medal votes.
Disappointingly there were no real breath-taking moments. Putting the best players on the field together was hoped to bring out a new level, but the downside of players not knowing each other's games seemed to outweigh that.
In terms of pressure, one player commented that it was a fairly open match, indicative of the players not going as hard as they normally do. It always had the feeling of an exhibition game, with smiles on the players' faces during the match when away from the contest - not that intense battle seen in state of origin's glory days of the 1980s. When Victoria was in trouble they dug a little deeper to win for their state, but the Dream Team never really matched that passion. No doubt the players wanted to win, but there was no sense of history or state pride in a hybrid side. Just as the Allies concept was never fully embraced in state of origin, so too the Dream Team, wearing all white (previously reserved for umpires) didn't really demonstrate that the concept should have much longevity.
Despite some players calling for a return of true state of origin the bottom line would seem to be that the Tribute Match was a nice one off, but the Dream Team should remain as just that, a once off. Until the players and public are strongly enough demanding true state of origin, with players representing their state, not just one state getting that honour, then representative footy is unlikely to return any time soon. Perhaps if Victoria had been soundly beaten or we saw a match for the ages then the state versus state cause might have been advanced, but that isn't how it turned out.
As a side note the Australian broadcaster Channel Ten trialled "new" technology, with cameras on the goal posts, goal umpires, interchange bench and even on one field umpire's shoulder. The use of goal umpire cameras has been used for nearly a decade by the ABC in covering the SANFL, only occasionally adding much of worth to the coverage, and that seemed to be the case in this match - good try, but rarely an enhancement to the viewing experience. This was especially so with garbled audio and footage bouncing around.
All in all the event was a nice idea that was reasonably successful for its purpose, but didn't really ignite as a game to warrant a repeat. Perhaps that's sour grapes from somewhat following the losing team, but the fact that the mostly Victorian crowd felt the need to start up the Mexican wave in the last quarter suggests they weren't on the edge of their seats. As another writer put it "largely the teams playing keepings-off, and the crowd was rarely stirred". On with the real season and we wait for the return of true origin in the distant future, or perhaps Australia versus the World, if our international footy dreams come true.
Dream becomes nightmare for some as Big V pull clear
Authored by: Peter P on
Sunday, May 11 2008 @ 07:48 PM EST
What the Tribute game did show was what Australian Football can be like with enough concentrated talent on the field. The quickness and accuracy of the passing by hand and foot all night (despite the greasy ball and slippery surface) was simply brilliant.
State of Origin is probably buried forever. All states and the Northern Territory now produce talent for the AFL. To simply play Vic v Sth Aust or West Aust leaves too many players from Qld, Tas. NT, NSW, and Ireland out.
The hope is that over the next 20 years the AFL clubs have more talent to draw upon from amateur and semi-pro leagues around the world. Then the matches will have the sort of skill level we saw last night, but combined with more passion from players and crowd.
Dream becomes nightmare for some as Big V pull clear
Authored by: Brett on
Monday, May 12 2008 @ 01:23 AM EST
At times it was silky smooth, but there were also quite a few turnovers when the pressure wasn't on. Really, Geelong in full flight against some of the other top AFL teams have moved the ball quicker and more skilfully in my opinion. Speaking purely as a fan, "around the BBQ" conversation the next day was that the game never rose to great heights and left people flat. Media reports have been mixed, some saying it was a great game, some seeing it like myself, somewhat soul-less.
I think it does demonstrate that at AFL club level the players are all high quality, so playing at representative level doesn't produce as big improvement as one might first expect. The depth at AFL level is better than it has ever been.
--- Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN
Dream becomes nightmare for some as Big V pull clear
Authored by: Brett on
Monday, May 12 2008 @ 04:39 PM EST
Probably worth flicking through to see a few of the match-ups, but there didn't seem to be as many one-on-one champion versus champion type encounters as expected. Nice one handed mark by Fev, a few nice goals. I've since seen/read about 10 media reports on the game from both Vic and SA. A couple enthused, a few went the middle ground and several went along the same lines as myself suggesting the crowd breaking into a wave said it all.
Most of the focus now is on the players saying they want more and the AFL saying unlikely and the media saying they shouldn't do it. One former SANFL coach suggested on radio they'd be happy to see them wait 300 years next time. That was perhaps overly harsh. It served its purpose as a 150 celebration.
--- Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN
Dream becomes nightmare for some as Big V pull clear
Authored by: Troy Thompson on
Thursday, May 15 2008 @ 12:45 PM EST
All that I spoke to here in Melbourne considered that it was "a good game" and most spoke with enthusiasm about it. A bit easier for us to swallow here in Victoria (with genuine representation) than Croweaters like yourself Brett. Even heard one commentator lamenting that his Geelong supporting son (who i think was about 10) said it was "the best game he had ever seen" (even though he saw all Geelong games last year). Perhaps he was starstruck, which i guess is the general idea.
Dream becomes nightmare for some as Big V pull clear
Authored by: Brett on
Thursday, May 15 2008 @ 09:53 PM EST
I wondered whether it would be better received in Melbourne, but most of the Victorian media lamented it as lacking something too. It was interesting to see them raise most of the points I did in my article Saturday night, so it can't just be a Croweater view.
However the players continue to talk it up as a great experience. There's no doubt some put their bodies on the line at times, but it seemed like they were more excited by the week leading up to the match, getting to rub shoulders with their fellow stars. But someone like Brett Burton, who played pretty well and talked up the anti-Vic sentiment and said it was a wonderful game, did concede that when it came to the crunch Victoria had more to play for.
It was interesting to hear Chad Cornes, who was sorely missed with a broken finger, speaking on the KG and Cornes radio show in Adelaide. He's the kind of tough nut that the Dream Team probably lacked. He said his brother Kane loved it, and Chad would've played if fit, and says he would rate playing for SA up there with AFL finals as something to wish for. But when asked what he thought of the Tribute game, admitted to turning it off at half time as it didn't really hold any interest.
I think everyone agrees it needs to be state versus state, and that it's virtually impossible to organise that, and certainly not annually. The best chance seems to be for some kind of carnival held every 4 years or so. As the AFL matures the players will continue to be scattered further around the country, so clubs like Adelaide will have less representatives in any one team, so may be less likely to be against the event.
One suggestion I thought had merit was the idea of states being ranked, and the nearest ranked teams playing each other. So to move up the ladder you have to beat the team above you.
Year 1
A: 2 v 3
B: 4 v 5
C: 6 v 7
then the next year the winner of A plays 1 for the titles of champions and runners-up, while the loser of A plays the winner of B for 3rd and 4th, and the loser of B plays the winner of C for 5th and 6th. Thus there are 3 games in year 1 and 3 in year 2. Years 3 and 4 are left free to not overdo the concept, then repeat, or find another method.
If we start with Vic ranked 1, SA and WA as 2 and 3 (in either order), then the winner of SA and WA rightfully get a crack at the Big V, while the loser has to defend their top 3 spot by playing the winner of game B, say NSW/ACT or Tassie or Qld or NT.
I don't know, that's kind of on the fly, so it may be full of holes, like every other theory put forward.
But back to your post, tell me Troy, from the view of a Victorian, did you think both teams went hard at it at the level of a big AFL match? And was the standard any higher than a normal AFL match, other than the quicker movement due to sides not really flooding?
--- Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN
Dream becomes nightmare for some as Big V pull clear
Authored by: Troy Thompson on
Friday, May 16 2008 @ 07:49 AM EST
The game was allowed to be generally open and flowing both tactically and somewhat due to selection (Ling and Sewell two that could have been in the Victorian side otherwise I think). The first half definitely took time to build, but I thought the second half was much more competitive and the last quarter played seriously by both sides. I don't think you could ever expect it to reach SOO hights, but it wasn't SOO. Most people I think hope that SOO can be brought back despite those who can stop that from happening working against it.
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